{"id":7729,"date":"2025-11-25T09:25:35","date_gmt":"2025-11-25T08:25:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.polarpod.fr\/?p=7729"},"modified":"2025-12-16T09:57:11","modified_gmt":"2025-12-16T08:57:11","slug":"la-grande-matinale-du-mardi-25-novembre-2025-aya-nakamura-sebastien-chenu-jean-louis-etienne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.polarpod.fr\/fr\/la-grande-matinale-du-mardi-25-novembre-2025-aya-nakamura-sebastien-chenu-jean-louis-etienne\/","title":{"rendered":"La grande matinale du mardi 25 novembre 2025 : Aya Nakamura \/ S\u00e9bastien Chenu \/ Jean Louis Etienne"},"content":{"rendered":"[vc_row type=\u00a0\u00bbin_container\u00a0\u00bb full_screen_row_position=\u00a0\u00bbmiddle\u00a0\u00bb column_margin=\u00a0\u00bb30px\u00a0\u00bb column_direction=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb column_direction_tablet=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb column_direction_phone=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb scene_position=\u00a0\u00bbcenter\u00a0\u00bb text_color=\u00a0\u00bbdark\u00a0\u00bb text_align=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb row_border_radius=\u00a0\u00bbnone\u00a0\u00bb row_border_radius_applies=\u00a0\u00bbbg\u00a0\u00bb overflow=\u00a0\u00bbvisible\u00a0\u00bb overlay_strength=\u00a0\u00bb0.3&Prime; 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Il est au micro de Sonia Devillers.<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"Expression-guests svelte-ccn03w\" data-testid=\"Expression-guests\">\n<div class=\"Expression-guestsTitle qg-tt5 svelte-ccn03w\">Avec<\/div>\n<ul class=\"svelte-ccn03w\">\n<li class=\"qg-tx2 qg-xtra-lh svelte-ccn03w\"><a class=\"svelte-1t7i9vq underline-hover\" href=\"https:\/\/www.radiofrance.fr\/personnes\/jean-louis-etienne\" data-testid=\"link\"><span class=\"qg-st4\">Jean-Louis Etienne<\/span>,<\/a> <span class=\"Expression-guests-role\">m\u00e9decin et explorateur fran\u00e7ais\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ExpressionBodyJson ExpressionBodyJson-franceinter g-block-margin svelte-ccn03w\">\n<div class=\"observer svelte-13dn26f\" data-testid=\"IntersectionObserver\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.radiofrance.fr\/franceinter\/podcasts\/le-grand-portrait\/le-grand-portrait-du-mardi-25-novembre-2025-4432257\">Ecouter ici<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"HtmlBodyWrapper station-franceinter \" data-brand=\"franceinter\">\n<p class=\"PopSlotParagraph qg-tx2 qg-xtra-lh svelte-1r0pyek\">Les explorateurs ne sont pas des voyageurs, ce sont des b\u00e2tisseurs. Toute sa vie, Jean-Louis \u00c9tienne a imagin\u00e9 des bateaux, des radeaux, des tra\u00eeneaux, des capsules, des ballons dirigeables. Il les a construits et il les a fait construire, il les a \u00e9quip\u00e9s, entretenus, am\u00e9lior\u00e9s, bricol\u00e9s, r\u00e9par\u00e9s. Il les a aim\u00e9s plus que de simples machines, car ces v\u00e9hicules extraordinaires sont porteurs de r\u00eaves. Mieux, ils sont porteurs de valeur, d&rsquo;un amour inconditionnel pour les p\u00f4les Nord et Sud, ces sentinelles de la plan\u00e8te. \u00c0 77 ans, Jean-Louis \u00c9tienne poursuit son \u0153uvre d&rsquo;explorateur des r\u00e9gions polaires avec la m\u00eame d\u00e9termination qui l&rsquo;anime depuis quarante ans. Re\u00e7u par Sonia Devillers dans La Grande Matinale, il \u00e9voque son parcours singulier, de la campagne tarnaise aux oc\u00e9ans les plus hostiles du monde, et d\u00e9voile son projet le plus ambitieux : Polar Pod, une \u00ab\u00a0cath\u00e9drale\u00a0\u00bb scientifique destin\u00e9e \u00e0 \u00e9tudier l&rsquo;oc\u00e9an Austral.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"qg-st2 \">Du CAP de tourneur-fraiseur \u00e0 la chirurgie\u00a0: un manuel contrari\u00e9<\/h2>\n<p class=\"PopSlotParagraph qg-tx2 qg-xtra-lh svelte-1r0pyek\">Jean-Louis \u00c9tienne ne cache pas ses origines modestes. N\u00e9 dans le Tarn, dyslexique \u00e0 une \u00e9poque o\u00f9 on le disait simplement \u00ab\u00a0nul en lecture\u00a0\u00bb, il voulait devenir compagnon du devoir, charpentier-menuisier. Faute de place, il s&rsquo;oriente vers un CAP de tourneur-fraiseur au coll\u00e8ge technique. C&rsquo;est l\u00e0 qu&rsquo;il\u00a0d\u00e9veloppe un go\u00fbt pour les math\u00e9matiques. Cette dimension manuelle, loin de dispara\u00eetre ensuite, traverse toute sa vie.\u00a0<em>\u00ab\u00a0Quand je mets mes dix doigts en aidant le chirurgien, je me dis mais, \u00e7a, \u00e7a sera ma vie, je serai chirurgien\u00a0\u00bb,<\/em>\u00a0se souvient-il.<\/p>\n<p class=\"PopSlotParagraph qg-tx2 qg-xtra-lh svelte-1r0pyek\">\u00c0 c\u00f4t\u00e9, il y a le gout pr\u00e9coce pour\u00a0l&rsquo;exploration\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0<em>\u00e0 14 ans, j&rsquo;ai fait une liste de mat\u00e9riel pour aller camper dans les Pyr\u00e9n\u00e9es en hiver, et apparemment seul\u00a0\u00bb.<\/em>\u00a0Mais c&rsquo;est finalement la mer qui lui offrira le terrain d&rsquo;expression de cette double comp\u00e9tence\u00a0: m\u00e9decin curieux et b\u00e2tisseur de machines extraordinaires. En 1977, \u00c9ric Tabarly l&#8217;embarque comme m\u00e9decin \u00e0 bord de Pen Duick VI.\u00a0<em>\u00ab\u00a0\u00c9ric m&rsquo;a offert mon premier tour du monde, il m&rsquo;a offert surtout l&rsquo;ouverture sur la mer (&#8230;) et il a fait de moi un marin.\u00a0\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"Bounce svelte-1v0l6ut\" data-testid=\"Bounce\" data-brand=\"franceculture\">\n<div class=\"BounceCard svelte-990b7w\" data-testid=\"BounceCard\">\n<div class=\"BounceCard-body svelte-990b7w\">\n<div class=\"BounceCard-content svelte-990b7w\">\n<p class=\"BounceCard-title qg-st4 svelte-990b7w\" role=\"heading\" aria-level=\"3\"><a class=\"svelte-1t7i9vq underline-always\" href=\"https:\/\/www.radiofrance.fr\/franceculture\/podcasts\/de-cause-a-effets-le-magazine-de-l-environnement\/polar-pod-une-expedition-scientifique-hors-norme-face-au-rechauffement-climatique-9419258\" data-testid=\"link\">Polar Pod\u00a0: une exp\u00e9dition scientifique hors norme face au r\u00e9chauffement climatique<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"BounceCard-secondLine qg-tx5 svelte-990b7w\">\n<p class=\"BounceCard-subtitle svelte-990b7w\">De cause \u00e0 effets, le magazine de l&rsquo;environnement<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"BounceCard-cta svelte-990b7w\">\n<p class=\"BounceCard-duration qg-tx5 svelte-990b7w\">\u00ab\u00a0Pers\u00e9v\u00e9rance\u00a0\u00bb : un laboratoire flottant pour \u00e9couter les oc\u00e9ans<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"PopSlotParagraph qg-tx2 qg-xtra-lh svelte-1r0pyek\">Aujourd&rsquo;hui, entre le Mexique et l&rsquo;atoll de Clipperton, navigue <em>Pers\u00e9v\u00e9rance<\/em>, le voilier de Jean-Louis \u00c9tienne. Cette go\u00e9lette de 42 m\u00e8tres de long, 11 m\u00e8tres de large, avec ses deux m\u00e2ts et ses 800 m\u00e8tres carr\u00e9s de voiles, est bien plus qu&rsquo;un simple bateau. <em>\u00ab\u00a0Sa coque est vraiment costaud.\u00a0Renforc\u00e9e, elle permet au bateau de se frayer un chemin dans les glaces fractur\u00e9es. Il est fait pour affronter les r\u00e9gimes de vent et de vagues de l&rsquo;oc\u00e9an Austral\u00a0\u00bb,<\/em> explique l&rsquo;explorateur.\u00a0Mais\u00a0<em>Pers\u00e9v\u00e9rance<\/em>\u00a0est surtout un laboratoire flottant \u00e9quip\u00e9 de capteurs ultra-performants pour \u00e9valuer la sant\u00e9 des oc\u00e9ans. L&rsquo;une de ses missions les plus fascinantes\u00a0? \u00c9couter la faune marine gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 un hydrophone tract\u00e9 \u00e0 50 m\u00e8tres \u00e0 l&rsquo;arri\u00e8re du bateau.\u00a0<em>\u00ab\u00a0Si vous passez un moment avec les sp\u00e9cialistes de la discussion des mammif\u00e8res (&#8230;), ils \u00e9clatent de rire, \u00ab\u00a0tu entends ce qu&rsquo;il lui a dit\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>, raconte Jean-Louis \u00c9tienne avec enthousiasme. Ces enregistrements permettent d&rsquo;inventorier orques, cachalots, \u00e9l\u00e9phants de mer, et d&rsquo;estimer leurs populations.<\/p>\n<div class=\"Bounce svelte-1v0l6ut\" data-testid=\"Bounce\" data-brand=\"franceinter\">\n<div class=\"BounceCard svelte-990b7w\" data-testid=\"BounceCard\">\n<div class=\"BounceCard-body svelte-990b7w\">\n<div class=\"BounceCard-content svelte-990b7w\">\n<p class=\"BounceCard-title qg-st4 svelte-990b7w\" role=\"heading\" aria-level=\"3\"><a class=\"svelte-1t7i9vq underline-always\" href=\"https:\/\/www.radiofrance.fr\/franceinter\/podcasts\/chroniques-littorales\/chroniques-littorales-du-lundi-02-juin-2025-6020095\" data-testid=\"link\">Exploration : Jean-Louis \u00c9tienne repart \u00e0 l&rsquo;aventure avec le voilier Pers\u00e9v\u00e9rance<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h2 class=\"qg-st2 \">Polar Pod\u00a0: la cath\u00e9drale des 40\u00e8mes rugissants<\/h2>\n<p class=\"PopSlotParagraph qg-tx2 qg-xtra-lh svelte-1r0pyek\">Le projet ultime de Jean-Louis \u00c9tienne porte un nom\u00a0: Polar Pod. Cette structure verticale de 100 m\u00e8tres de haut, dont 75 m\u00e8tres sous l&rsquo;eau avec un lest de 150 tonnes, est con\u00e7ue pour affronter l&rsquo;oc\u00e9an Austral, <em>\u00ab\u00a0la mer la plus dangereuse au monde\u00a0\u00bb.<\/em> L&rsquo;objectif\u00a0? \u00c9tudier en continu, aux quatre saisons, cet <em>\u00ab\u00a0oc\u00e9an le moins connu de la plan\u00e8te\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> qui joue un r\u00f4le majeur dans la r\u00e9gulation du climat.\u00a0<em>\u00ab\u00a0Quel type de vaisseau permettrait de s\u00e9journer sur cet oc\u00e9an de temp\u00eate dans des bonnes conditions de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 et de confort\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>, interroge l&rsquo;explorateur. Sa r\u00e9ponse\u00a0: un navire vertical, z\u00e9ro \u00e9mission, propuls\u00e9 par le courant circumpolaire et aliment\u00e9 par des \u00e9oliennes. \u00c0 bord, huit personnes\u00a0: quatre ing\u00e9nieurs oc\u00e9anographes, trois marins et une autre personne, pour \u00e9tudier\u00a0<em>\u00ab\u00a0le principal puits de carbone oc\u00e9anique de la plan\u00e8te\u00a0\u00bb.<\/em> Face \u00e0 Sonia Devillers qui le pr\u00e9sente comme un\u00a0\u00ab\u00a0b\u00e2tisseur\u00a0\u00bb, Jean-Louis \u00c9tienne r\u00e9sume sa philosophie\u00a0:\u00a0<em>\u00ab\u00a0Le moteur, c&rsquo;est l&rsquo;envie. On ne repousse pas ses limites, on se d\u00e9couvre. 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